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	<title>Comments on: Trailer for &#8220;The Tale of Despereaux&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.articlesandtexticles.co.uk/2008/07/01/trailer-for-the-tale-of-despereaux/#comment-2113</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Felix Sputnik: The only thing that I could suggest is that film, and especially animated film, is above all a medium for the broadcast and sharing of fantasies.  Now there are many people in the world whose reality has not lived up to their early expectations, who then turn to fantasy to give them satisfaction, fulfilment and affirmation in their lives.
  
This sense of validated identity is best enjoyed in the comfort of a group of like minded peers, such as the R(otten)T(omatoes) amateur critics, who have all invested heavily in the same shared values and are bonded in the same love of fantasies.  A bit like animators, really.

They are likely to reject anything that opposes their shared group ideals, even if it's (from an outsider's point of view) a trivial criticism, because the importance of subscribing to the group's values overrides any individual's personally held opinions.
  
We as film artists must recognise ourselves as a merry band of fantasists too, for we are if anything even more dependent on the fantasies of film, because we need to make our living by creating and dramatising the fantasies.

The interesting dynamic lies in the difference between the two groups.  One bunch (Group A) creates the fantasies, and the other lot (Group B) consumes them.  I'd suggest that the two groups will forever have wildly different agendas, and you shouldn't be surprised, really.

We earn money from peddling fantasy, while fanboys have to pay money to consume our products.

In the end, the success of any film depends on its acceptance by the audience, and we have to have a deep enough understanding of the audience's needs to supply a satisfactory experience that will keep them happy and us rich... (Laughter)  OK: Paid.

Animated films are mostly targeted at an audience of people wanting to experience a simple escapist fantasy that will transport them away from the complexities of life, and reconnect them to the mythological core of our culture.  

The RT fanboys reflect and represent the audience's desire for incontrovertible simplicities, and their comments and pack attacks aren't meant for our ears or eyes at all.  

They're just spreading the group glue.  

OK, Now throw tomatoes at me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Felix Sputnik: The only thing that I could suggest is that film, and especially animated film, is above all a medium for the broadcast and sharing of fantasies.  Now there are many people in the world whose reality has not lived up to their early expectations, who then turn to fantasy to give them satisfaction, fulfilment and affirmation in their lives.</p>
<p>This sense of validated identity is best enjoyed in the comfort of a group of like minded peers, such as the R(otten)T(omatoes) amateur critics, who have all invested heavily in the same shared values and are bonded in the same love of fantasies.  A bit like animators, really.</p>
<p>They are likely to reject anything that opposes their shared group ideals, even if it&#8217;s (from an outsider&#8217;s point of view) a trivial criticism, because the importance of subscribing to the group&#8217;s values overrides any individual&#8217;s personally held opinions.</p>
<p>We as film artists must recognise ourselves as a merry band of fantasists too, for we are if anything even more dependent on the fantasies of film, because we need to make our living by creating and dramatising the fantasies.</p>
<p>The interesting dynamic lies in the difference between the two groups.  One bunch (Group A) creates the fantasies, and the other lot (Group B) consumes them.  I&#8217;d suggest that the two groups will forever have wildly different agendas, and you shouldn&#8217;t be surprised, really.</p>
<p>We earn money from peddling fantasy, while fanboys have to pay money to consume our products.</p>
<p>In the end, the success of any film depends on its acceptance by the audience, and we have to have a deep enough understanding of the audience&#8217;s needs to supply a satisfactory experience that will keep them happy and us rich&#8230; (Laughter)  OK: Paid.</p>
<p>Animated films are mostly targeted at an audience of people wanting to experience a simple escapist fantasy that will transport them away from the complexities of life, and reconnect them to the mythological core of our culture.  </p>
<p>The RT fanboys reflect and represent the audience&#8217;s desire for incontrovertible simplicities, and their comments and pack attacks aren&#8217;t meant for our ears or eyes at all.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re just spreading the group glue.  </p>
<p>OK, Now throw tomatoes at me!</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>webexhibits.org@gary dunn: I've only seen the trailer so far, and without seeing more of the film, I'd guess that the light green is an extension of Princess Pea herself.  (Pea Green?).
I can't immediately lay my hand on my copy of Max Doerner's excellent treatise, but there's a good website that deals with the history of pigments in art here: http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/index.html
Any good to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>webexhibits.org@gary dunn: I&#8217;ve only seen the trailer so far, and without seeing more of the film, I&#8217;d guess that the light green is an extension of Princess Pea herself.  (Pea Green?).<br />
I can&#8217;t immediately lay my hand on my copy of Max Doerner&#8217;s excellent treatise, but there&#8217;s a good website that deals with the history of pigments in art here: <a href="http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/index.html" >http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/index.html</a><br />
Any good to you?</p>
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		<title>By: gary dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm..the scale of the cheese has always bothered me...but hey..and what's wrong with sleeping in an old sardine tin and rolling the lid back like a blanket anyway..don't ALL mice do that?
on a serious note michael..the emerald green that seems to be somewhere in each shot ..is that typical in paintings of this period?.
mr-d*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm..the scale of the cheese has always bothered me&#8230;but hey..and what&#8217;s wrong with sleeping in an old sardine tin and rolling the lid back like a blanket anyway..don&#8217;t ALL mice do that?<br />
on a serious note michael..the emerald green that seems to be somewhere in each shot ..is that typical in paintings of this period?.<br />
mr-d*</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Felix Sputnik: Deeply thoughtful response coming soon!</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Princess Pea looks like your typical (f) Dutch student.</description>
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		<title>By: Adult Ühler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adult Ühler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The animation looks beautiful.</description>
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		<title>By: Felix Sputnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Sputnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey texticle man, You must do a blog about Hollywood CG fascism.
Wall-e just got a 96% freshness rating on Rotten tomatoes, and, while the positive reviews that mostly describe it as the greatest man made thing ever to be produced, rack up 0 comments, those critical or even just lukewarm about it get showered in abusive heaps of comments, being told why they can't justifiably hold their opinion.
I believe there is no finer mind than yours to analyze this phenomenon and find out why it is more likely these days to be beaten up for saying you don't like a Pixar movie, then for claiming the moonlanding was a hoax.
Looking forward to what you have to say...

Sputnik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey texticle man, You must do a blog about Hollywood CG fascism.<br />
Wall-e just got a 96% freshness rating on Rotten tomatoes, and, while the positive reviews that mostly describe it as the greatest man made thing ever to be produced, rack up 0 comments, those critical or even just lukewarm about it get showered in abusive heaps of comments, being told why they can&#8217;t justifiably hold their opinion.<br />
I believe there is no finer mind than yours to analyze this phenomenon and find out why it is more likely these days to be beaten up for saying you don&#8217;t like a Pixar movie, then for claiming the moonlanding was a hoax.<br />
Looking forward to what you have to say&#8230;</p>
<p>Sputnik</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Felix Sputnik: Thanks, Felix.  Good research!  Maybe we can become boiling blood brothers?  Please point out any more anachronisms you find.  They are mostly welcome, as a friend of mine says. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Felix Sputnik: Thanks, Felix.  Good research!  Maybe we can become boiling blood brothers?  Please point out any more anachronisms you find.  They are mostly welcome, as a friend of mine says. <img src='http://www.articlesandtexticles.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Felix Sputnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Sputnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, and the mousetrap was not invented until 1894  in Illinois, and the self igniting match would have to wait until 1805, but they are still all in this movie. It's the sort of thing that gets Limbolos blood boiling...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, and the mousetrap was not invented until 1894  in Illinois, and the self igniting match would have to wait until 1805, but they are still all in this movie. It&#8217;s the sort of thing that gets Limbolos blood boiling&#8230;</p>
<p>Sputnik</p>
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